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David Bennett
@david-bennett
02/23/18 04:30:41PM
65 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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I wonder if people knowing about the recent flooding in Hindman had any impact on the low registration.

I have a couple of friends in my local club that were planning on just showing up without pre-registering so they wouldn't be out any money if they had to back out, a legitimate concern. Several weeks ago I tried to get them to register arguing that the planners needed to know ahead of time how many would be there, especially as meals were provided. But they still wouldn't pre-register. I'm wondering if there were others planning on showing up without pre-registering. I'm not busting on these folks. But if this was a factor in cancelling the event perhaps it shows the need to pre-registering. But I could be wrong!!  :)

David Bennett
@david-bennett
02/23/18 04:18:02PM
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Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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For those planning on going to the Hindman Dulcimer non-Home Coming and now thinking about meeting in Berea we need to decide on dates in order to make reservations.

The Hindman Dulcimer Home Coming was scheduled 8-11 March. The 8th is Thursday. Do we want to meet on the 9th and 10th (Fri & Sat)?  I'd probably need to leave Sunday but might be able to adjust with enough notice.

Maybe Warren May would have some ideas where we could meet.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/23/18 04:11:43PM
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Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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I am so sorry to see this!  And hope some folks may still get together.  

It is sad to me that an area which has figured prominently in the development of the modern lap dulcimer will not have a fest to celebrate the people and its history in the development and popularizing of the mountain dulcimer. 


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/23/18 04:13:46PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
02/23/18 04:01:44PM
2,157 posts

Black Oak Or Hansen Dulcimers


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Andre; you do realize that, except for farmrusts' post last month, the rest of this conversation is 5 years old, right?  AFIK we haven't heard from Mike Anderson or Robert Terdeman since then...

David Bennett
@david-bennett
02/23/18 03:56:43PM
65 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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Maybe we can meet in Berea.  We always like staying at the Boone Tavern on the campus of Berea College and on the same block as Warren May's shop... What do you think?

andrearceneaux
@andrearceneaux
02/23/18 03:55:23PM
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Black Oak Or Hansen Dulcimers


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I have my wife’s grandfather’s Black Oak Mountain Dulcimer complete with original case and original paperwork from the store it was purchased. How many did the Hansens produce and what are they worth?
David Bennett
@david-bennett
02/23/18 03:54:14PM
65 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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Here's part of the email I received:

"My name is Brett Ratliff and I’m the Director of Cultural Heritage Programs at Hindman Settlement School. I regret to inform you that it is not viable for us at this point to move forward with the Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming due to low enrollment and the risk of not covering our costs, which is a risk we are simply not in a position to take. In light of this, we have made the difficult decision to cancel this year’s event. We realize that you have made special arrangements in order to be with us, so we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your support..."

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/23/18 03:35:11PM
2,422 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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Is the Hindman gathering really cancelled?  Have they given a reason?

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
02/23/18 03:32:24PM
453 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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I'm currently planning to still go down there personally, to see the guys at the shop. 

Berea can work for me.  I always look in on Warren May when I go through there.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/23/18 03:16:07PM
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Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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I have not received the official notice yet. While I am not out as much as you are Ken, I do have a non-refundable motel reservation in Berea for Sunday night. Is there a way a few of us who might be interested can meet, visit, and play together? It doesn't have to be in Hindman (not lodging there).

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
02/23/18 02:01:38PM
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Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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CANCELLED!!!!  I'm sorry, but that's really tacky to cancel an event two weeks before it's supposed to take place!  Now I'm out $400 because I'm betting the airline won't refund my airfare; and the rental car agency my deposit.  Theoretically we'll get our Festival money back... provided they haven't spent it on something already.

Not just disappointed; I'm really peeved!  I've seen several Festivals fail over the years, but they just didn't schedule any others.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/22/18 03:39:52AM
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Hi Adrian,

Rick never had a website to my knowledge, but he's still around.  He moved recently, but he had a koa dulcimer for sale a few months ago, so he must still be making them.  He is a member here:  https://fotmd.com/rick-probst .  Try to contact him.  If he doesn't get back to you, send me a personal message and I'll contact him on your behalf. (I don't think it's my place to hand out his email.)

I'm pretty sure Rick is still making dulcimers, but not that many.  He's been making ukuleles and other instruments with a steadier market.  But luthiery was always a side gig for him anyway; he has a day job, so his production is limited.

Susie
@susie
02/21/18 08:05:29AM
513 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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Never mind. I'm all set. Thanks again, Richard and Dusty.
dmvtatter
@dmvtatter
02/20/18 09:11:53AM
12 posts

8 String Dulcimer Maker?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I did check in the sound holes and all over the surface of the dulcimer for any markings.  

I know that the man who purchased it lived in Vermont but he traveled extensively to craft/artisan shows for his pottery company so it could have come from darn near anywhere.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
02/20/18 08:47:10AM
2,157 posts

8 String Dulcimer Maker?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Doesn't ring any bells here, either.  What part of the country does it come from?  First time I've see an 8 string.  I've fantasized abut making a 3 course 9 string dulcimer...

You did look in the soundholes for a maker's label or writing on the back, right?

dmvtatter
@dmvtatter
02/20/18 07:01:05AM
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8 String Dulcimer Maker?


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I have recently purchased a vintage 8 string mountain dulcimer. It was built to the owner’s father’s specifications about forty years ago. I cannot find any thing on the dulcimer that would identify the maker. Does this seem reminiscent of any particular maker’s style?

 

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Patricia Delich
@patricia-delich
02/19/18 01:15:30PM
154 posts

Hearts Of The Dulcimer Podcast In Its 3rd Year


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Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast - Episode 33
An Irish Music Special

http://bit.ly/hotdpodcast

 

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In this episode we’re playing music from Ireland, all on the mountain dulcimer, of course. With music from dulcimer players Carol Walker, Aubrey Atwater, Neal Hellman, Jonathan Dowell, Mark Gilston, Linda Brockinton, Gary Gallier, Molly McCormack, Lorinda Jones, and Larry and Elaine Conger.

Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast can be found on most podcast apps.
Here's the link to Hearts of the Dulcimer on iTunes:  http://bit.ly/hotdpodcast

 

Don't use a podcast app or iTunes? You can listen to all the podcast episodes directly on our website:  http://dulcimuse.com/podcast


We also have a resource page for every episode, where you can find photos, videos, and song lists. Here's the resource page for this episode:  http://dulcimuse.com/podcast/resource/033.html


updated by @patricia-delich: 02/19/18 01:15:50PM
Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
02/19/18 08:35:35AM
420 posts

David Schnaufer "Hex" dulcimer


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I guess someone didn't pay the omeka.net bill.  Shame.  Pretty good pics of some interesting instruments.

 

Stewart McCormick
@stewart-mccormick
02/19/18 05:49:42AM
65 posts

David Schnaufer "Hex" dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Right, but as you explore the Vanderbilt site, it has several links to the Omeka site... But everytime you follow the link, it shows a message about it no longer existing. Sadly, not only did this site show his collections, but also had little recordings of what most of the dulcimer's unique sound. Since Omeka is a site building platform, I guess I should contact whoever is over the collection at Vanderbilt...
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Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
02/18/18 10:57:43PM
2,157 posts

David Schnaufer "Hex" dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

The instruments themselves are in the Tennessee State Museum.  Vanderbuilt Univ. has The David Schnaufer Collection of his research and instrument database:

  "Initially conceived by David Schnaufer, the database was designed as a "sound museum," exhibiting playable song clips played on historic handmade dulcimers alongside his research and documentation (gathered with Sandy Conaster) of historical dulcimers including photos, dimensions, dates where known, and other provenance information."

Stewart McCormick
@stewart-mccormick
02/18/18 09:37:03PM
65 posts

David Schnaufer "Hex" dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Hello all! I used to visit a site that hosted information in regards to the late Mr.Schnaufer's collection. Including one piece in particular he called the "Hex" dulcimer... I can no longer get onto the site (Omeka?), would anyone have any information, specifically on dimensions of this piece? Thanks in advance!!
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Susie
@susie
02/18/18 08:37:27PM
513 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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Another question:

Has anyone gotten a McSpadden with the 26" VSL? If so, what are your thoughts on it (does affect volume or sustain)?
Thanks.
updated by @susie: 02/18/18 08:39:16PM
Susie
@susie
02/18/18 11:02:23AM
513 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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Hey, thanks guys, for your replies. That helps a lot. I appreciate your taking the time to respond.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/17/18 10:45:30PM
1,873 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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Susie, Richard is describing the dimensions of the standard dulcimer that McSpadden has sold for years.  However, a couple of years ago they began making another one with a shorter VSL.  I think it's 26" instead of 28.5".  If you play noter/drone, the longer VSL is fine. But some people who play chords prefer a shorter VSL because it's easier to finger some chords (although you lose some sustain in the process).

Micarta is a synthetic material that is used in place of ebony or rosewood.  Since legal ebony is getting harder to find (and therefore more expensive) some guitars and other instruments are now made with micarta fretboards and bridges.  I've read that it is as hard as ebony, but I don't know what it feels like to play.  If you search the internet you'll find some high-end Martin guitars with micarta fretboards, so it must be pretty good.

One interesting note: since Micarta is synthetic, it can be colored.  Most of the time it is black so that it looks like Ebony (though it probably doesn't have wood grain). But theoretically, it could be any color. Imagine a dulcimer with a hot pink fretboard!shocked

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
02/17/18 03:51:00PM
280 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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Susie,

Length overall      36"
Width lower bout  7"
Width upper bout   5.5"
VSL   28.75"
Depth of body including top and back     1.75"
Width of fretboard    1.5"

Hope that helps. Perhaps you'll get a response for a newer instrument in case the measurements have changed in the intervening years.

I have no experience with the micarta overlay.

Richard

Susie
@susie
02/17/18 03:05:47PM
513 posts

A Couple McSpadden Questions


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I have a couple questions regarding McSpadden dulcimers:

1. What is the overall length of a McSpadden dulcimer (I can't seem to find the dimensions on their website)?

2. I noticed on their website that a Micarta fretboard is an option. Has anyone ordered a McSpadden with the Micarta fretboard option and how does this compare to the Ebony fretboard option (I have had an ebony fretboard before, so I don't need information on that, just on the micarta)?

Thank you for your help.

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
02/15/18 12:00:55PM
280 posts

I may be confused about traditional sounding dulcimers


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So well said, Strumelia. Great thinking, understanding and putting it into words.

David E.Hall
@david-ehall
02/15/18 11:03:58AM
10 posts



Just a quick note. Have a look at Shearwater whistles on the web.I am told  that they are good value for money and  nice to play. I must admit bias as John ( The Owner ) , built me a  nice 6 string dulcimer a few years ago.

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/15/18 10:58:45AM
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I may be confused about traditional sounding dulcimers


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Sounds like lots of fun Robin.  I hope you inspire some folks to make local music!  hamster

There were many wonderful home musicians, and musical families, in the Appalachias before the time of radio.  Regular people sang while they worked, they sang at the end of the day to unwind, they sang during worship, and in play. Jean was considered unique for sure when she 'burst upon the folk scene' in NYC in the 1940s!  However, there were many others in her time and place who were formidable musicians, particularly traditional singers.  Her own sister Edna came a few years before Jean and was a great singer/dulcimer-accompanist in her own right. These ballad singers were much respected in their communities. As Jean said, it was the songs that led the way among the music she grew up with- she considered herself first and foremost a singer, not a dulcimer player. Jean also played guitar, banjo, and recorder and I don't know what else.. likely some piano because she did some school teaching as well.

Jean described how she was disappointed to later discover that she did not 'invent' her method of singing the melody while playing the harmony... she came to realize it was something other creative music makers did as well.  As a young person she thought she had invented the method for the first time... because she invented it for herself to solve the problem of not hearing the dulcimer when she played and sang the same notes in unison.  Don't we all 'invent' things and marvel at our own genius, only to discover others invented the same thing long ago? sigh

I strongly believe that some of the more creative music makers within any broader population, no matter what their education or background, will experiment with playing, instrument construction, tunings, songs, strumming patterns, etc.  After all, that's how the 6.5 fret came into favor. Yes for sure musicians can settle into a favored way of doing things, but just because people described them as doing things one way, I always allow that they tried out a few variations at some point...even if it's as minor as trying a different material for a pick.  I know I do such experimenting all the time!  When i stumble into a tune on the banjo where the notes are not easily accessible.. the first thing I do is fool around with the tuning to make it more playable. 
Despite the scarcity of documented writings and recordings of very early dulcimer, I maintain my conviction that inquiring-minded musicians of any time and place will twist pegs and have their own 'eureka! moments'. bananadance  Thus, you'll never see me saying that people didn't do this or didn't do that.  I may say a tuning was 'the most common' (and ionian certainly was the most common, likely followed by unison such as used in Galax...one can play 90% of American folk repertoire in them), but I never will say something was 'not done' or never done'.   :) 

I have two epinettes des Vosges.  Their fretting patterns and stringing are almost identical. Yet I keep one in major ionian and one in aeolian or dorian mode to play the simple minor folk tunes I love.  I keep a Hummel in major tuning to play cheerful dance tunes, and I am having a bowed langspil made now that I'll be playing probably only in minor tuning.  Interestingly, the oldest surviving Icelandic langspils in museums had variations in fretting patterns, indicating variations in tunings.  And some are pure diatonic as we know it, and others are chromatically fretted.  They were strummed, plucked, and bowed.  According to what I've read, there is no documented 'original' traditional tuning that survived in descriptions, so people during a later langspil revival simply adopted the tunings that worked for them.  Those revival tunings are now generally accepted as 'standard', but we don't really know how players may have tuned the earliest langpils.  
I know there are many, many folks who only play major tunes, or who play only in one tuning.  But i can't imagine not playing the soulful minor tunes of Jean's time!  Ah, but I digress...(and blab...)

In any case, here's to our each having enough Eureka moments in our playing journey to keep us inspired!


updated by @strumelia: 02/15/18 12:41:36PM
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
02/15/18 07:53:04AM
280 posts

I may be confused about traditional sounding dulcimers


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Sounds exciting. Let us know what kind of response you get.

 

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
02/15/18 06:54:11AM
239 posts

I may be confused about traditional sounding dulcimers


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Strumelia:

heheh... Robin I think we'll just have to remain in disagreement concerning this groaning board of specifics and conclusions.   kittyscratch catdance   


 


Richard, the one thing I think we can all reliably agree on is that there is no 'one only' for mountain dulcimers-  no one only tuning, no one only playing style, no 'one only' size, or shape, or kind of music...  And that doesn't even take in to account the whole decades-long debate about what 'traditional' means in the first place!   duck



HUG   Strumelia - I think it is good we can have these debates.  And I am more than prepared to shift my position as new information comes my way, because that's how we learn!   Jean Ritchie was sooooo unique, in my opinion, in the way she used the instrument with her voice to play and sing the ballads from her cultural reference.  But we can go into that another time!!!! blinders


What you say about a plethora of 'traditions' is so true - as is the debate about what 'traditional' means!  Particularly when we are focusing on very few people over a very small period of time in a very young and dynamic culture!  And that history has been clouded by the early folklorists lens on 'simple mountain folk'.


I made a box dulcimer just before Christmas (the story is here  ) and I left it with the pile of scrap wood from the village shed build.  A friend of mine found it and has tucked it away in a cupboard at the village hall.  He said "You know that someone is going to find that box in 100 years time and write a PhD about it" nerd  Laugh


That certainly got me thinking about 'tradition' and how it starts with something new.  So I thought I'd see if folks in the village wanted to make a new Welsh instrument, based around what we've come to call the Tennessee music box (which David Schnaufer thought may have been distributed by the Romani families originally from Wales), but with some modifications such as zither pins, nut and bridge, to suit the Welsh hymns, folk songs and twmpath tunes carried to the parish where I live by the Romani Cymreig families when they visited each year.  The flyers are written and will be distbuted this weekend - so we'll see what happens!


Robin


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Noah Aikens
@noah-aikens
02/14/18 11:15:45PM
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Yes the Tinwhistle is very similar, but has less notes and not as strange cross fingerings as recorder. I learned tin whistle before recorder, but I think going from Recorder to Tinwhistle will be easier than what I did.

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/14/18 10:10:39PM
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It feels similar for some notes, and of course notes go up as you uncover more holes from the bottom.  But there are numerous fingering differences- enough to mean you have to learn a new fingering scale.  BUT I think the PW is a little simpler than the recorder in terms of fingering.  Googling fingering picture charts for both, and you'll see what I mean.  nod

Blondie
@blondie
02/14/18 09:21:23PM
25 posts



Thank you so much.  I will explore their site.  Is the fingering on penny whistles the same as on a recorder?

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/14/18 08:51:52PM
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Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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Great John. I can't wait to see you again.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
02/14/18 08:46:50PM
2,157 posts

Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming


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Great John; lookin' forward to meeting you!

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